It would fuel them actually. Most of the rapists out there watched some form of porn that involved nonconsent. Pedophiles who molest children watched child pornography. It just makes them want to actually do it for themselves.
My thoughts were actually that this stuff would only be available for people who already feel like they are solely attracted to children. There was this documentary I saw once on some guy who was a paedophile but chose to never hurt any child. I wouldn't distribute animations like those to "regular" people, if that were the case I'd definitely agree with you on that.
If someone is a pedophile but refuses to act on his emotions, then he's doing the right thing. Watching child pornography will not help his cause. Children cannot consent. Regardless of whether or not it is animated, the children in the film are not legally able to give consent because they are not old enough to give it nor understand the consequences. There's a reason why people can get arrested for having child pornography on their computers, and it's not just because the children in those videos were abused. The people watching did not take part in the making of the film, but because they are getting off on watching children being sexually abused shows that they have disregard for the childrens' welfare and can reenact it themselves. I suppose that doesn't necessarily mean that they WILL do it, but there is the threat of it occurring, and we must uphold the safety of children above the sexual desires of adults.
Take it this way. Someone I know, when she was little, had her father jailed because he was caught watching child pornography. One of the girls in the video looked exactly like her, and the police were afraid that she had been forced to take part. Would you feel safe knowing that your father enjoyed looking at a child who looked just like you being violated? Would you be able to sleep easy at night knowing that one day he could slip into your room and do the same to you? Personally I say, if you are a pedophile, what you need is professional help. Criminal psychologists do not tell their rapists to watch videos of women/men being raped in order to restrain their emotions. They do not tell their killers to watch people being murdered to help them. Criminals need to stay AWAY from the things that attracts them to go down the immoral highway. Pedophilia is a psychosexual disorder, and it needs treatment. The people suffering from this disorder usually feel like it was against their wishes to have it, so imo I think it would be tremendously helpful for them to recover from the disorder rather than feeding it and trying to keep it at bay. If you could either treat the symptoms for HIV/AIDS or cure it altogether, which would you chose? Food for thought. Sorry for the long ass reply it got out of hand lol
Wooooow okay but wait! Of course the visual content shown has to be fake! (animated) It'd be so wrong to show real life child abuse! I'd never ever approve of that, naturally. I just thought maybe something animated would help. It's not like I'd be glad to spread stuff like that into the world, but I think it may do some good. Although I'm not sure why entirely. I understand your fears of people thinking it'd be okay to do such things though. But I do feel like people wouldn't get triggered by stuff they see on tv that much to be honest. It'd be the same as seeing someone get murdered in a movie and then thinking "hey, I should murder someone today". Well, a little bit like that I suppose.
About the person you know, you're right. I would be afraid that that man would do something like that. I guess that's also because he has kids himself which makes it just more disgusting, to be honest. Although on the other hand, if the man was never caught watching the pornography, maybe he wouldn't have been jailed at all until something terrible had happened. I don't know if this is too rude of me, I'm sorry if that's the case. I wouldn't mean to offend you in regard to your friend. I do agree that paedophiles need help, of course. But how do you recognise a pedophile? How do you know which people are? I feel like the visual content could help recognise pedophilia in someone too, if i.e. the police were to find out someone watches it. No real kids get hurt and you can find pedophiles with it too, if you look at it that way.
You're right about this part though, that murderers aren't told to watch animations of people getting murdered to be able to restrain themselves. I'm not entirely sure about pedophilia being a disorder like that. I don't know, I hope it is and I hope it is "curable" but it seems so impossible to me. That's why I can't really say if it's to be "treated" or "cured". But if it really is scientifically proven a disorder and I just don't know about that fact, then of course curing is the solution.
Things like that is something that doesn't need to be promoted in a world like this. The only condition that can stretch at times is manga that shows two guys having sex and one happens to be young. Sometimes too young for the audience, used for certain viewers who care for certain forms of romance. Other then that it really borderlines an obsessity that can be viewed as very dangerous and disturbing.
So the child and the animal are actually two adults who are shape-shifters, there, solved. If saying "not fine" has no legal implications than I could board that boat too. If "not fine" means it shouldn't be legal then that's ridiculous...
Well if its an animated show its fine. But if it was with real people, then we got a problem. So people, calm down, it's an animation. You should be complaining about real child porn, instead of animations today.
Hahaha woooow, people are weird. They think that watching actual videos of actual people having sex is fine and not cheating, but watching an animated drawing with no real people at all involved is wrong? For me it's the opposite. My partner can watch all the cel-shaded drawings and read all the printed words he wants, but if he ever moved on to a picture of an actual person I'd be livid. It's a matter of respecting actual people.
people who constantly and willingly watch cartoons with children engaged in sexual acts are pedophiles in denial. there is no reason why children should be depicted in any sexual act designed for willing or consenting adults.
I don't think (imho) that child pornography and beastiality are on the same place on the scale of "gross and sick". I don't think child porn should be animated at all, but I have no problem with somebody animating a dog riding up someones leg. Still gross though.
Of course those things are always wrong 0_0 I can't believe anyone would argue child porn is ok, regardless of format
It's not a healthy state of mind. Obviously the animation in itself cannot cause harm (it's pictures) it's the mentality behind things like child porn & beastiality that is really unhealthy, & any form of encouragement/acceptance including films (whether animated or otherwise) is not ok. To some extent it normalises these acts (& as mentioned previously) in the case of animation, it can create a distorted perception that these acts are enjoyed by all involved, which is completely untrue.
I really worry about humanity, arguing that child porn or beastiality is ok is so sick. I don't even know what else to say @_@\
Personally, while I'm usually fairly liberal in nature I would have to say no. I admit I support censorship on certain things, and I just don't think child porn/bestiality is ok even in an animated scenario.
I think like a lot of people said (at least on the first page of comments): It's much safer for a pedophile or a person who's interested in bestiality to be able to have a medium in which they can experience it (animated) without harming an individual (or animal). It's one of those instances where it's not 'hurting' anyone (unless the person making the animations actually have had sex with a child/animal before, but then that's more THEM than it is the animation I'd think)
Ironically enough some places say it's totally cool for you to have sex with your goat or pig .__. (though generally speaking I think they'd still get charged for it haha)
Honestly, I see nothing wrong with it. The animation hurts no one, and I'm liberal; as long as no one is hurt, anything goes. Some people are pedophiles, some like bestiality, and frankly, I don't think it's right to take even the animated porn from them. It's not their fault they have deviant tastes, and we're all human. So I'd rather have them watch the animated stuff than real stuff where someone was actually hurt.
Soriyns-KnightFeatured By OwnerDec 8, 2012Student General Artist
It may still be considered weird, but in the same way that extremely violent films aren't considered to be murder, I wouldn't consider stuff that's fictional to be on the same or even near the same level as something that did actual harm to a child or animal in it's creation. I'm fine with people doing or making anything they want as long as it does no harm to any actually people.
I wouldn't call it fine, but I tolerate it.(so voted no) As someone who likes violence in fiction because it's just fiction and not real I would feel like a hypocrite to say other kind of horrible things are not ok. And it's not like someone who enjoys these things is automatically going to harm other people.
As said I like gore an splattery stuff but in Real life I can't even kill a butterfly on my own.
On the other side the problem of consuming any kind of this stuff can lead to someone getting so used to it that they are no longer able to tell what's appropriate outside of their fantasy and what not. Which again leads to the question, does someone become pedo/violent etc because of the things he consumes, or does he consume them because he already has a tendency for it. For example my mother is appalled by anything rather violent and anything that has monsters (even when it's Monsters Inc. no joke) so she would never even look at it anyway.
So someone who likes shota/loli would just to watch it already need a tendency to like it anyway.
I don't like it, and think it's sick (though as for Bestiality, if the animals aren't being harmed and the people like it, I got no problem with them doing it) but...if there's the chance it might keep people from making or buying the real kind...I say they should do it. It'd be nice if the animated kind would blot out the real kind. Doubtful...but it'd still be nice.
Yes it's fine. As long as you're not harming anyone, do what tickles your fancy. I don't see anything wrong with it at all. Life is short and you only live once, people should worry about more important things.
However, it's not harming anyone since it's animated. But if someone becomes a rapist or something then that's the person's fault not the cartoon. And IMHO, we wouldn't be able to or at least, it'd be hard to control our urges without some sort of outlet of sexual tension other than masturbation. That's kinda the point of porn.
Remember, other than dolphins, (and some more animals I forgot) we are the only species that actually feel pleasure during sex. We are more of an empathy-oriented species.
So, in the end, everything in moderation. If you don't want to then you don't want to.
I don't wanna see Beastiality or Child Pornography, even if it's animated.
WHO WOULD WANNA ANIMATE THAT!? lol any, it ain't fine. Soon cartoons won't be enough, unless this man can keep the "upper head" lol (get it) and think logically. Anyway, umm... Your almost past sane when you wanna do animals.
I don't care what other people do as long as it doesn't effect others around me.
I don't think child porn could ever be right, just thinking about the question makes me feel sick. Although I do find things like Jimmy Saville jokes funny, but i think that's a little different maybe. As for beastiality, I just think it's really weird that a human would want to be intimate with an animal...
With all the different art thieves and copiers, it is entirely possible that he did not draw them; but that is beyond the point. Yes the images in his style exist. Yes, it is likely that he drew them. However, using a site that is filled with hate and venom rather than calm, rational speech, detracts from an argument and turns it into an attempt to affect someone's emotions rather than their intellect.
If you had simply said "Bleedman is an artist known for drawing remakes of children's cartoons and comics, and some of his art involves loli porn," you would have answered the question and passed your opinion of him along, given your previous comments on the subject.