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F*CK

Journal Entry: Fri Jan 11, 2013, 5:37 PM





Its that time again when Ry ponders on the many wonderful things in life, this time he ponders into the english language and into the supposedly rude and vulgar curse word: F*CK



Of course I understand there may be people who freak out just by seeing the word so I have taken the effort of censoring it, but if you still faint by the sight of the censored word then I highly suggest you leave the page And browse through my pretty artworks in the gallery instead. OK? All easily sensitive people left the room? Kids into bed? Good good. So right, I don't use the F word much as I don't see the vulgarness in it, to me it feels like an everyday word that shouldn't be used because some people may not like it, its just one of those things you know? Same goes to words like 'dwarfs' 'eskimos' 'black' 'bitch (As in calling a female dog)', like these words falls into the grey area and they ain't very safe to use, so some people don't use it including me, I don't throw these words around much because its too risky. But the F word, as mentioned by Stephen Fry in a show I watched, he talked about how he can't understand why F*ck is such a bad word when it literally just means sex, there are worse words than that like Kill or Rape or Murder or Torture. Yet we use these words everyday and it doesn't sound that bad, 'Oh I am gonna kill you!' 'I got raped so hard in League of Legends' 'We got murdered today in soccer' 'This maths class is torture..' While F*ck, the only thing keeping humanity from extinction is somehow considered bad, if an alien is to come to Earth and look at our language system it may get confused, it would wonder why a word that means reproduction is considered vulgar, while killing and murder and rape ain't as bad.

I was talking to my mum about this the other day and she got really offended, she was saying how there is something satanic about the F word, there's something dark about it, something that's not right, yet she can't really specify what it is. It's really odd, its like we get offended by things we don't fully understand. I then went deeper and think of how the word could be used in a sentence to make it even more offensive, like 'I f*cked your mum last night!' ... mmm thats offensive because you had sex with the person's mum right? But have you considered the factors? If the person's mum is like 60 years old and ugly, then what benefits does that have on me? Ok something better 'I f*cked your girlfriend! And she enjoyed it' ok now thats more harsh, but then again it wasn't like 'I raped your girlfriend!', its I f*cked. So its like a consent situation then? Did she enjoy it? Was it what was lacking in our relationship? Did she needed that? If it satisfied her needs and in turn saving a dying relationship, then it doesn't sound as bad, it might even be a good thing on the long term. Compared that with 'I murdered your girlfriend.' You know what I mean?

Now the question is, do we need a stronger word to curse? If there IS a need to curse. Language is very interesting, especially curse words in other language, I'm sure you have come across a situation where you meet a classmate who's from another country and you ask them to teach you their language, very often you end up learning the swear words XD I have no idea why, but I do that too. So like if I do end up going to that country, the only thing I can do to the local is to swear at their face? Anyway in Cantonese the three most offensive ones are, the obvious 'F*ck your mum' pronounced kinda like 'Diu ley ah ma!' but we have covered that one already, I got a feeling in every languages there's at least one intercourse with one's mum as a popular swear word in there. Ok the second one is more interesting, 'Tripping and falling on the street' pronounced in cantonese as 'Pook Guy' YUP HOW RUDE! You are walking on the street and then you accidentally tripped and you fall on the ground, thats pretty much it, nobody died, nobody came and took advantage of your body, you pretty much just fell on the ground... THE HUMILIATION RIGHT?! Ok WTF I don't understand the logic in that one at all, we already learnt from Batman that we fall so we can learn to pick ourselves up, so what's the big deal? Ok the third one, this third one I think is the MOST logical one, we don't really have that in the english language, it just doesn't sound right if spoken in english, but its 'Your whole family dies' in Cantonese its 'Hum Ga Charn', this one makes sense right? Everyone you loved in your family just suddenly dies. There's nothing worst than that, this one I can actually agree can be quite rude.

BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY THESE ARE ONLY OFFENSIVE IF THEY ACTUALLY HAPPENED. My family is still alive, my mum didn't have sex with you (I don't know why you would even wanna have sex with my mum in the first place), and I didn't fall on the ground without getting up again. So what does this mean? These are just words! If you really wanna be offensive to someone (I don't encourage it) then you should really put salt on their wounds, look at their family background and find offensive but realistic things to say. Or if someone is missing a leg you can go 'Hey you wanna come jogging with me?'. If someone's dad died in an explosion in the middle east, you start singing Bruno Mars' Grenade to them. Now thats rude! There are many creative ways to be rude and the F word isn't one of them, mmmm now what are some ways to stop the F word from being used offensively in our society. To be honest I think just... really don't think of it as rude, if you don't think its rude, and I don't think its rude then its not gonna be rude. Obviously you don't say it to kids, same how you don't talk about sex to kids. But once they reach that age where mummy and daddy needs to teach them about where babies come from, you teach them by reading the book 'Babies: How mummy and daddy f*cked'.

ORRRRR JUST BE NICE TO ONE ANOTHER. Don't be mean. Isn't that better? Ry-Spirit cares.

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NormalIdeal Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2014
This is just like I wrote it, haha.

I think it's also much related to whether you're male or female. Whenever I said "F*ck you!" to a guy, they gave a dirty smirk. What I saw on their face was: "If you f*cked me, it would actually be a good thing! You didn't make me angry at all...I even like it!" So I don't use the word ._. But if a guy says it to another guy, things change...It might be something about domination. The act of f*cking (lol?) is usually a forceful thing, maybe it gives a feeling of dominating the other?
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shieonn Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013  Student General Artist
oh god I totally agree to this >A<
ALmost everyone at my school says the F word like it's just a usual word oh god
AND MY JUNIORS LIKE 1 to 2 to EVEN 3 or 4 YEARS YOUNGER THAN MY GRADE SWEAR HELL WAY MORE THAN I AND SOME OF MY FRIENDS DO just I don't get how those younger kids know those swear words... Heck I didn't even know what the F word meant till about 2 years ago? =w='''
And I'm in highschool now lol
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
lol.. well i guess kids now days has more easy access to the internet and exposure to everything. so they learn more, learning both the good and the bad. ^^"
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shieonn Featured By Owner Oct 16, 2013  Student General Artist
*sigh* I guess that is true...
But still it is a no no to swear, at least not out loud xD
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Isuox Featured By Owner May 12, 2013
Man I swear so much it's like it's my own language. LOL
I can just be in a conversation at school, and we're talking about cats, then i'm just:
"Oh my *bleep*, that cat is so *bleep*ing adorable, I just want to *bleep*ing hug it for *bleep*ing ever. Oh my *bleeeep*." Plus i'm a bit chubby so it's sort of like OMG chubby swearing person. xD
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wolf-in-a-dress Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
See to me using the word 'rape' out of context is far more offensive. One day someone will say that in front of someone who has actually been through it and really upset them because it's really not something to joke about.
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 26, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
yeah true dat
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RishuMisu Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013
before i read this journal, i read the art sale one first,
and i clicked into the "out of my faxking way" picture and saw a person complained about the title name
is this something to do with that? xd

and people normally says "diu lay lou mou" more than "diu lay ah ma" :iconsrapplz:


but i dont think you should think much about them swear words, since people have different opinions
if they dont like it, they dont like it i suppose :iconlazepoolplz:

i dont normally swears and i dont say them to people while im talking to them either
only when i tripped or dropped something then i will xDDD
they just come out so naturally \o/ :iconlazyshyplz:

oh and i do call people bitch too, but only in a joking way;;;;

cantonese's swear words somehow sounds more offensive to me, so i never say those :iconlazywaveplz:
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Lol i didnt think of that, as in the person complained bout the swearing but i thunk it showed ppl do get offended so dats y i dnt say it. Chinese swear words does sound worst but i think its cos the chinese society is more sensitive towards it. They may think only lower class people say it, im sure theres a prejudice thing going on.. But i dnt use chinese swear words cos it sounds weird wen i say it.. It sounds kinda funny and ppl cant take me srs after.
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RishuMisu Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
hahaha
i wanna hear you say chinese swear words xDDD
when you next coming back to hkkkk
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
LOL NO WAYYY
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RishuMisu Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013
say it :iconepicstareplz:
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 19, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Diu! :(
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RishuMisu Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013
awwwwwwww xDD
well
but i cant imagine you saying it in person tho haha
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 20, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
me neither lol. it would sound so retarded
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mike-horo Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional General Artist
In Mexico we have this word. Chingar (Sheen-gar), It's meaning is pretty dark. It litterally means "To rape someone and the victim had offspring", Hundreds of years ago, being the a "chingada"(raped mother)'s kid was a public shame, it made you less of a person.
Its a pretty rude word. But nowadays its treated like your "fuck". Most people confortable one with another (and not in front of your gramma or a priest) will speak it and some variations that have hundreds of meanings.
How a word meaning something so dreadful became a placeholder for "vulgar yet not specifically offensive (unless otherwise stated)"?
Thats deep, and twisted.
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
i'll make sure i dont use the word Chingar in Mexico :'U it sounds pretty bad. raping someone and the victim has the offspring..
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goldhedgehog Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
It's funny because Aussies are quite casual with this word in their conversations.
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XOrdinary1998 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I think the F word is considered offensive because 1, it means a very awkward action that isn't often spoken about out loud (at least not where I am from) that people may not be comfortable speaking about, and 2, the same meaning is said to be a very...hmm, how to put it. Intimate love. Very "romantic". Important to a strong relationship. You know what I mean. Sex is important between spouses, etc etc. Now, the F word is like saying that like, "Yeah, whatever." Like saying "Drop dead" instead of "Get away from me," you know? It's a blunt, rude way to say something intimate and precious. And btw, there IS a worse word, in case you didn't know...
Now, the REAL question is, should a 14 year old (me) really know all this...?? :omg:
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Yes a 14 years old is old enough to know of sex. But of cos defintely not old enough to have it. So yea good solid answer. Thats y i dnt swear cos i know just cos i dont mind, other people might get offended. So im being considerate really. If i swear in public then im kinda like being selfish i think.
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XOrdinary1998 Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
True, true, I just meant know EVERYTHING...
That is pretty considerate of you. Although still spelling it with a single asterisk kinda made me gulp, you know? I'm not fond of swearing, I like to use catchier, more original exclamations. Like, my friends say stuff like, "Gophers!" and "Crumpets!" instead of swear words. :D
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nazo-gema Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Filmographer
It's even better when you go to the Netherlands. We do not swear with the word f*ck. In fact, if we would swear with it it would sound stupid. Which means we
really have no swearword for f*ck. Do you know what the Dutch use as swearwords instead?

..Hideous diseases. To name a few:
- Cancer
- Tyfus
- The Plague

The correct way in which to use these would be to put them in front of people, objects, words, etc.
So you would say, you are a cancerous.. (insert person, object, etc here).
Or even just shout the disease itself if you are really stressed out. You just scream CANCER!! or TYPHOID! Rlly loud
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Makaylafashion Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Curse words don't bother me at all. They're just words people ~_~
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NingNinja Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I am with you 100%. I was thinking this exact thing a few days ago.

Though maybe you shouldn't be teaching everyone how to be more offensive?
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badaritist25 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I heard that it was a medieval acronym meaning fornication under consent of the king.
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MrCoolDD Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You have a point...
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Sheilakh Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Huh, this has got to be the most beautiful and eloquent analysis of the F-word that I have ever seen, good job!

I should use this topic for my next research paper...
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LeopardGal Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
This made me laugh. Thanks for cheering up a flu-ridden girl :)

However, you are slightly misinformed. F*ck means rape, not normal sex. It used to be a legal term, standing for Forced Under Carnal Knowledge.
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Parasols Featured By Owner Feb 5, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
haha nope! There's a lot of myths going around about where 'fuck' came from but it's not an acronym for anything, just an old word that got morphed.
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SiKKiN Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Oof, that puts a whole new spin on things. I never knew that...
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Grangerbookworm Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
The things you learn everyday! I never knew that.
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AlexisDragonStorm Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
or, in most cases, "Babies: How mommy and daddy f*cked up"

lol
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Star-Gamer Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
I don't mind the word except when some people practically insist upon peppering their every conversation with it, even when it does not fit in any way, for no reason whatsoever. :iconeyerollplz:
Ah... Stephen Fry. He's a brilliant man. Ever watch QI? I highly recommend it.
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
ive seen every episode of QI to this date XD
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Star-Gamer Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
:iconthumbsupplz:
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fishburger Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
I think fuck is only that popular because it's a universal and international swearword. You can pretty much go anywhere and everyone will understand you if you say fuck.
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Pinebby Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I wrote an essay in my college English class addressing this issue.
It was argumentative/persuasive, so most of it was just my opinion.
Two things I did find in my research, however, were kinda' interesting.
Not a lot of research has been done on it that I saw, unfortunately.
However, there was this one article that said that shouting out a curse word when stubbing your toe, or being injured in some way will subconsciously make you feel better.
That, and the basic origin of them was at x time period that, when people believed that words had powers beyond speech, what are some modern curse words were words that were thought to... well... curse people.




anyway
obviously this isn't what people abuse these words for anymore
so
you know
doesn't matter anyway lol
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richardtorres21 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student General Artist
hahahaha oh my god dude, really your journals are the only ones i find ENTERTAINING OH MY GOD YOUR AWESOME I LOVE YOU! ...ehhem, uhm anyways! you made the best points EVER really, you made some of the best points possible! and you end it off with "ryspirit cares" and i read that in the voice thats all soft and stuff and oh my god im dieing my sides, they be hurtin!
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MrsVolv Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
By the way... in my language there is a swear meaning "adding pepper" :D
So every cook and mum is rude because they use it like "add some pepper" xDDDDD
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MrsVolv Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Well I suppose it's not about meaning. "sexual intercourse" or "having sex" is not rude at all and means the same.
It is all about the word, it's often because of the background and history of the word that makes it a swear.

Well, my language is the one with the biggest variety and the most tough swears(That's why for me English not mentioning Japanese curses are very soft) but I don't use them... it's not because they are forbidden... it's just not elegant. I hate when people swear, it's just like trying to show "Hey, I'm rude and I'm prud of it, I don't give a damn about others who don't want to hear that, that's how cool I am" so why use "fuck" if you can use "having sex" if it means the same? Just and only to make other people unconfortable... that's just mean.
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Pikachuvz Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
What I think is most offensive about the "f bomb" is when some says, "F*ck you!" It like saying go die in a hole nobody cares about you. It's like you don't care about them at all. I dunno, It think it has a deeper meaning than just "sex". I don't use it because it's very rude. I will say almost any swear (when it's appropriate) but I will not say the f word.
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ArtisticAnri Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student General Artist
I don't curse much (at least not aloud, in my head I do though ^^;) I don't mind if someone else curses, I don't like it much because it sounds rude, and a bit... Whatever, but I don't mind if another person curses. But if you curse at me =_=... I-I... I will go home a draw you (the person whom cursed at me) in a funny way (like having a big head or something) :iconvoodooplz: (okay maybe not, I'll probably ignore it or something :XD:)

Nice journal :)
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ripley4O77 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
"Hum Ga Charn" I love that one XD How would you pronounce that?
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
like Hum Ga Charn
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ripley4O77 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
:stare:
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SonicWolvelina99 Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
It really depends on the intention of what the person is saying. If someone says fuck in a humourous way, people will laugh because they know its intent was to make people laugh. If you said it in a rude way, people will get offended.
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FreeJayFly Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
This is one of the mains reasons cursing/cussing isn't a big deal to me. Like, I say so many of these words (sh*t, f*ck, b*tch, etc.), and it just doesn't mean anything because it's not being insulting. If anything, it's because I've gotten so used to them being in my vernacular that I use them for the utmost stupidest things that happen or go on in my life (i.e. describing some of my common household chores as 'I gotta get these sh*tty-ass dishes cleaned'). Either that, or adding the wrong kind of emphasis on my words ("you have no f*cking idea how much this is awesome").

|D;;

Though, yeah... in the end, it really just depends on who you're talking to. Like, I'll never curse while in a work place, or with my parents, or talking with people I don't know... unless they make it evident that they do not care about curse words being used in our conversation by doing it first. And... with my parents is subjective. They don't care if I curse, I just don't do it out of respect because I love my parents. Like... my mum doesn't care unless I'm using those curse words to be rude or describe any part of my family. As for my dad, he expressed a long time ago when I was thirteen that he didn't care either, just as long as I don't become a 'trash talking toilet.' XD
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TheonknownKLAW Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student Filmographer
Languages are meals and swear words are the spices. Some like their meals spicy, others wont touch the darn things and some just don't mind. Personally i don't curse much, I just use really strange/twisted metaphors to describe the situation. e.g. rather than saying "Well this is f**ked up." I'll say "Well isn't this a set of razor blades up the piss pipes." ... in most cases people just prefer if say the former, less painfull imagery.

On a side note, got my 3DS *epicvoice* EXTRA LARGE! today... but I got screwed over with the charger in the sense that its too low voltage to charge my 3DS...oh the pain. I could only play Kid Icarus for like one 10 mins -_-
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DILAGO Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013  Student Digital Artist
awwwwww :3
i love the last line ♥
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Evanatt Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Well, F word is kinda demonic. At least the norwegian F-word :D [link]
Faen :D
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