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ALWAYS SIGN YOUR WORK and other stuff

Journal Entry: Wed Jan 9, 2013, 12:38 AM





Hi folks. I was gonna make this journal sooner or later, but there's not a more appropriate time than NOW, when my 'Sorry we're closed' ry-spirit.deviantart.com/art/S… artwork got posted on 9gag right m.9gag.com/gag/6281912 ! Not only did the person not credit the artist or link it to my page or whatever, they even changed the title of this artwork to 'S**t Happens'. Come on man... WHAT ALSO sucks is that back then I had a different logo, its like that box with a thunder symbol on it, it doesn't have my username on it either... so people could just look at that picture and have no idea who drew it. I mean this artwork is OLD.. like more than 2 years old.. so I was still new to how the internet works when it comes to sharing. So now this 9gag post gets like 16k of likes and over 500k of views and I don't get a single credit. *Flips a table*. Remember how I endlessly praised Joss Whedon a couple of weeks ago because not only did he repost my work on his facebook page, but he also clearly credited the artist with an actual link to my facebook fan page, now THATS the proper way to do things.

Now for you guys, so you don't make the same mistake I did. And don't think to yourself 'Oh my work isn't good enough for people to share anyway.' *slaps your face* LISTEN, this is the internet, people can share things with a single click of a button. Sure there is no controlling of what people share. SO THATS WHY YOU SHOULD TAKE THE FOLLOWING STEPS:

-SIGN YOUR WORK! Always sign your work, and if you can please also make it visible and readable, if your name is Ry-Spirit, you write Ry-Spirit, dont just sign it with a Ry. Cos imagine if someone wants to find out more about the artist and just type in Ry in google, what would they find? I just tried, first result is a Dermalogica Skin Care product on ry.com.au Totally irrelavent to me, do I look like I need skin care? However if they type in Ry-Spirit, it would lead them to the appropriate pages. Which leads me to the next point....

-USE THE SAME NAME IN WHATEVER PAGES YOU ARE ON! If you are on multiple website like Facebook, Tumblr, Twitter, Youtube, MyFace, MyDick or watever. Use the same name. So they all link to each other and people know you are the same person. Another reason being it doesn't make it easy for someone to remember both your nicnames ok? It also prevents confusion amongs people, like they might see an image on MrButtFace's Tumblr, then see it again in MrBumCheek's Deviantart and thinks its a stolen piece, only to find out later in embarrassment that MrButtFace and MrBumCheeks is in fact one person who just felt like having a different name for fun. Bad idea.

-DO NOT ALLOW DOWNLOAD! The thing about Deviantart is when you upload something, the 'Allow download of original (full-sized) image' box gets ticked by default. So if you upload a massive file and have that box ticked? People will be able to get the full size resolution pic down to every bloody pixel. They can then print it off and sell it in shops and conventions without you knowing they are making money off your hard work. Yo good luck with that buddy! So my suggestion is to always tick the box off, or upload a smaller version, if its a portrait artwork, i suggest to have the width set to 600px to 900px. So that even if people try to steal it, they will get the pixelated version and only you yourself has the high resolution file.

-ALL THOSE LEGAL CREATIVE COMMONS MUMBLE JUMBLE ACTUALLY MATTERS! You know after you upload an image on deviantart and on the bottom of the submission page there's an optional Creative Commons box you can click on? ALWAYS CLICK IT! It only takes a few seconds but it can save you legal troubles in the future, trust me I have used those legal shit to defend my work many times. After you click on it, you will be given three options which by default should all be set to 'no'. I suggest you read through what happens when you turn those 'no' to 'yes'. pretty much by ticking the appropriate boxes to it will put a legal mark on your work. You can choose to allow people to reuse your work for commercial purposes if you are feeling generous, you can even not allow people to share you work if you don't want it. For me personally (And if you wanna follow my ways) is to tick ONLY the first option to yes. So the 'Use a Creative Commons License?', turn that to yes. In simple words people can share your work on the internet but they must credit you, they are not allowed to sell it in any ways, they are also not allowed to change your image (like adding their own ugly logo on top of your work, or cutting out your name down the bottom, or adding sparkles etc). If they don't follow these rules, they are doing something illegal. Sure people can still get away with it, they can just hide in their closet and never come out again, but the law is on your side and you should take it.

There you go, I am still a bit pissed off MANY people don't credit me when they share my work, but sometimes its not neccersarily their fault, its like chinese whispers, maybe the first few person who shared my work credited me, then a person shared the image again on another site, then people grabbed the image off that site and eventually I am not longer credited. Thats why you should always have your username on your artworks.. noticed how I always put my logo and username on the bottom of every artwork I do? Its for reason like this. OK? Good keep that in mind, play the game more professionally. Ry-Spirit cares.

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Ewxep Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2015
About signing:
I don't think it's necessary if I could present the original when asked to.
If I decide to use a signature, I'll make it hard to notice.

About using the same name:
Safety first - so I use nearly everywhere another name.
I even need to if an account has to be closed.

About Creative Commons:
I'm really afraid of the legal pitfalls and I doubt it is what I want.
I don't want to expect this to others either.
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aka-daifuku Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
:O thank you for sharing your experience~ ;__;
I'm not in the least knowledgeable about this since I tend to draw/paint traditionally these days and not go on dA at all...
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MaewRS Featured By Owner Jan 15, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Some of my fan arts had been shared a lot in the Facebook universe although I had put my watermark in the middle of them. :hmm:
Worse than that, I've just found one of my fan arts is on the mug in some FB page today. I doubt that it could be made for sale. -_-
That one is made on about 5-6 years ago and I had put my old watermark that was too small and somewhat hard to be seen....yeah, that was my mistake. ^^;

I'll be more careful on newer works, thanks for the advice and sharing the story. :D
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Gee-94 Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Hey thanks! I needed to know some of that stuff. I'm always afraid of someone taking credit to some of my work, and although it has not happened (at least to my knowledge) I should start taking precautions now.
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Rusty-Cat Featured By Owner Jan 14, 2013  Professional General Artist
Sometimes I want to put watermarks of my works because I have 3 other accounts on other sites.
I'll be putting the Creative commons on my artworks now.
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NingNinja Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Hey Ry, can I just ask, how do you go about applying copyright stuff when it includes other copyrighted material? eg, Pokemon.

I'm considering registering to an official copyright company thing, and I'm doubting they will back me up if my drawing/painting contains a Pikachu etc.
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
well that comes down to the question of what makes a fan art and what makes a copy of the original. Fan art is one's creative input into something existing, so I strongly believe to make it obvious that its a fan art, you should have your own style and your own ideas put into it. Take my 'Sorry we're Closed' artwork for example, you do not see that situation happening in the anime or games, so in a way its kinda like a parody, like satire, it is what I the artist think would happen if the Pokemon Center closes down. If you are applying for a job that wants you to show some concept art or watever, i strongly advice you put some original stuff in there. for reasons like you have a creative mind and doesn't have to have some famous franchises to expand on. like you have your own worlds and characters that you created. at least i think thats what you are asking for the official copyright company thing.. lol
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NingNinja Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Thanks for the help. :)

To make sure I fully understand, I probably won't get copyright protection if it's a flat out sketch of a Pokemon, but I would get copyright protection if it is in a creative scene and some of the artists ideas are part of the work. Right?
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
im still a lil confused.. pretty much if u drew it and posted it here on DA, then its protected.
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NingNinja Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Ah, ok, thank you. :)
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Qtsy Featured By Owner Jan 12, 2013
Thank you for this! I know little about copyright and this was helpful. I just finished changing the copyright on all of my pictures.
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PedigreeUnicorn Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Student General Artist
I really needed that slap in the face. Thanks, Ry :D
I used to think my stuff wasn't enough until some of my pictures got stolen and uploaded to facebook a few weeks ago. From now on I'll start signing everything.
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
good Mellon
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CogitorRex Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013
Register your copyright. ([link]) It is the single most important thing you can do to protect yourself from intellectual property pirates.

If someone infringes on a registered copyright, the copyright holder --that is, YOU-- can seek damages. You have the option of actual damages plus whatever profit the infringer made, or, if you can prove willful infringement, you get up to $150,000 per copyright.

One hundred fifty thousand dollars? you ask. Why, yes. Yes indeed. Per Title 17 of the United States Code, section 504(c )(2). [link]

THAT, my friend, is a big hammer.

I am not giving you legal advice. I'm just telling you what the law says.

My advice is to find an intellectual property attorney experienced in copyright law. Many attorneys offer free consultations, so take advantage of this to audition at least three lawyers, preferably more. The more you speak to, the better your understanding of what is possible and reasonable and what is not. Don't settle for one until you are comfortable with that person. This has the possibility to turn into a long term professional relationship.

Title 17 allows for a reward of legal fees, but you and your attorney may prefer a contingency arrangement. That way, your lawyer gets paid only if you win your case, and he or she gets a previously agreed upon percentage of the award actually collected. You might even be able to bring together fellow artists whose registered copyrights have been violated for a sort of class actions suit. (The opportunities for federal class action suits have been narrowed in recent years, so your attorney would have a better feel for how this would work out in your particular situation.)

The bright side of this is that if others are making a profit off the fruit of your labors, then you probably can, too. After all, it would not be the first time that a pirate trailblazed a new market.

Good luck!
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Lilblkrose Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Student General Artist
Its so stupidly true on what work you think is worthless- gets posted somewhere.

Like this weird ass autumn leaves drawing I made from messing around on Photoshop at school...
It was posted on a blog whose language I can't understand O-O); Luckily, it was hot-linked back to me (I think. That's how I found it at least)

A good advice to people who forgets to put their signature in the end and rush to submit it- would be to make a signature layer or stamp close by to remind you to watermark that piece of work.
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Ugh sorry that happened to you Ry. I always sign my stuff but maybe I should put the "@deviantart" part too somewhere. Even sadder, I've seen people repost stuff from dA on their FB without credit, then other people say "oh how cool that would be on a pin/shirt/pen" and someone else comes and takes the image, makes stuff and sells at a convention. And all because someone decided to make "an album" with art from people they never asked. u.u I always try to report art thief but on FB it's hard because there is no "art thief" option. :/
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Yea... Man i wish u can report on facebook, but i think thats y its good idea to not upload somthing big so they cant print high quality stuff. And thx for taking time to report stuff. I do dat too. Hate art thieves
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Jan 13, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Yeah, I've just seen people who dont care about resolution and still print sell them. I report them whenever I see them/can but many still pass off without being caught. u.u
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Yukyona-G-R Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student General Artist
This journal is amazing, i agree with all of this, and i think that all people should know this to protect their art-.... but i still thinking what can we do to protect our original characters :S it sound imposible <:0

could you tell me if the "creative commons lisence" can work for OCs too? (or someone else could tell me? )
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Hmm im not sure if it protects u from the OC, as in other people can do fan art of it.. that kinda thing. im not sure sorry
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Yukyona-G-R Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Student General Artist
dont worry :S im confused too, but iŽll try to find the answer
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Poki-art Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
just after i decided to post bigger resolution files so people can learn something from my artworks... heh, thanks, ry.
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alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Also! And unfortunately enough, even if you watermark and sign your stuff, some people will go to the extent of editing the picture and removing watermarks and signatures, but what can you do? :/
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
thats why i dont use giant watermark, i just hav little logo at the bottom, i thought most kids dont edit it out anyway, and if they do, they will do it to the huge watermark. so yeah there..
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alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Giant watermarks are really obnoxious. D:
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Hevfas Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013   General Artist
I wouldn't even present the challenge for folks to try and remove a watermark, just post at a resolution large enough to see the piece but not large enough to tempt copying.
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alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I always try to post a small resolution version as well, but people are really sneaky when it comes to these things.
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alexandrasalas Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Ugh, people did the same thing to *purplekecleon on Tumblr by posting her Gen VI starters pic with no credit and then they got mad at her because she was pissed off. The nerve of some people!

9GAG is a piece of shit site. :/
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
agree, i hate 9gag now. never paid attention to the site, now its on my hate list
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luke-crowe Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
I understand why you have the advice of "SIGN YOUR WORK!" and "DO NOT ALLOW DOWNLOAD!", but as a Deviantart user I don't like it. When artists start putting up small pictures with ugly watermarks on them, that's usually when I stop paying attention to thier work. I don't steal other artists work, I just like to see an attractive image at high resolution.
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 10, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
well signing can be just a tiny signature
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Speckledluminance Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for the journal. It has quite enlightened me.
Hmmm if you ever come up with a Ry skin care line hook me up. >:3
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
lol ok
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MrCoolDD Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you!
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LargeStupidity Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
This is exactly the reason why I hate 9GAG.
Some more info: [link]

Thanks for advice, Ry!
I usually upload my pictures with a slightly smaller resolution. But I guess signing them would be better... I'm just too afraid to ruin my drawings with a bad looking logo or signature... D:

Nobody's ever stolen any art from me (as far as I know) but 9GAG is doing it to so many people... It's so upsetting! :rage:
I actually found some of my artworks reposted on Zelda fantumblrs and pinterest quite recently. But they gave proper credit, which is great!
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
arghh i hate 9gag, why do these community exists, why cant they come up with their own funny stuff instead of stealing others? screw 9gag, screw them to hell
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ashe-the-hedgehog Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Woah bro, thanks a bunch for the advice. This legal license is a must do from now on.
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SiKKiN Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013
You always have the best journal, they're either very entertaining or contain great advice :)
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
thank u, i try to be interesting
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FlyingKitterz Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Student General Artist
Stay classy 9gag! :iconisayplz:
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Kaminarai Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Student Digital Artist
Yes! Thank you, this is exactly why I wanna change my DA username to my tumblr url but gotta wait for a premium membership for that! I'm pretty sure almost no one relates Kaminarai to my igbarriga tumblr...and the worst part is I tried changing my tumblr to kaminarai but some douchebag who never posts anything already took it >:

ugh I was so upset when I uploaded a bunch of Korra sketches and thought so little of them I didn't sign them only to have them reblogged by mike dimartino.
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MileniaKitsuvee Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Random but, Kaminarai sounds better than igbarriga. XD
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:iconkaminarai:
Kaminarai Featured By Owner Jan 11, 2013  Student Digital Artist
it does! its kinda easier to remember and catchier. oh well
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
f*ck mike dimartino. from now on sign everything. and if i had money i would giv u a premium for u to change your name :(
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Kaminarai Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Student Digital Artist
def gonna sign everything now! if i had money id buy a burrito
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NoaQep Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional General Artist
I usually do sign my work, but with my actual initials. <D
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
hmmm. but if people google your initials will they find your DA page?
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NoaQep Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional General Artist
Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory

TOTALLY ME /shot

No, they won't. But, I usually keep it as a pseudonym for myself. My actual art, or art I care about, I rarely post online. If I do, then I just do so in order to promote it, and it's never an original. *I smudge something here or there* Otherwise, I just post fanart or group art for fun.
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SakuraNights Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Oh man, I'm going to add my username to the bottom of my drawings from now on... this makes a lot of sense, and I certainly don't want people to steal my art!
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Ry-Spirit Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
YUP do it!
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